Friday, April 15, 2005

How hard is it to keep a hospital clean?

A story from the Honourable Fiend about how hard it is to keep MRSA out.

Hygiene is an issue in hospitals, but MRSA exists at all because we have over-used antibiotics for a generation, with us patients demanding them for any cold or cough we get and doctors handing them out like sweeties. Fortunately, that seems to be changing, but probably too late.

As has been pointed out, if the Tories hadn't obsessively privatised anything that they could, perhaps we wouldn't be in this mess now.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Please explain the logic of your last sentence, my feeble brain is unable to understand the relevance.
If only the NHS had never been nationalised, we should have no MRSA problem. I refer you to MRSA rates in private hospitals today.Also read "The Welfare State We're in"

PoliticalHack said...

My point, which was not well made - I was tired - was more to do with the Tories privatising the cleaning functions in our hospitals to the lowest-priced contractor. If only the NHS had never been nationalised, we'd have people without any hope of decent health care and a hugely overpriced private health insurance system.

Anonymous said...

Your socialist knee jerk reaction is so sad, it perpetuates the lie that if the NHS had not been nationalised the poor would have not been able to afford medical treatment. Yet before 1947 no one ever went without, and British medicine was the best in the West, not one of the very worst as now pertains. Patients were seen without delay, there were more hospitals, more research. Developing Friendly Societies, Unions, Insurance Societies proliferated and everyone contributed, nobody went without. If only one could remove the scales from your eyes.

PoliticalHack said...

'Nobody went without?' Read some history. Many people DID go without. Workers' health insurance often only covered the worker, not the family and if you were out of work you had to hope for some form of charity. People died for want of decent healthcare.

I don't know where you live or what experience you have of the British healthcare system, but it isn't one of the worst in the West.

I base my comments on experience and knowledge, yours seem to be justified solely because of your political beliefs with no regard to the facts. Don't worry about the scales in my eyes, take the blinkers from yours.

Anonymous said...

Myths and lies.
Do not confuse the limitations of medicine in 1946 with medical neglect. No doctor would fail to provide the best care available. Socialist fabrication of myths has been the great deceiver from Lenin to Attlee and onto our Tone. As for experience I am unlikely not to outrank you. Read "The Welfare State We're in" by James Bartholomew, if you can be bothered.

PoliticalHack said...

Why read about it? I asked an elderly relative. She remembers her mother putting small change into a jar to keep to pay the doctor. She remembers the doctor generously waiving his bill on occasion because he liked the family. She doesn't remember any of this medical utopia you claim. What about the woman I met who remembers her mother carrying her younger brother, sick with pneumonia, to five different hospitals in a fruitless attempt to get treatment - only because she couldn't pay.

That's based on experience. People died because they couldn't afford any healthcare. You are the one peddling myths and lies, not me. When we have sent Michael Howard to the backbenches again, I shall try and find the time to read this book.

Anonymous said...

That woman you met who remembers her mother....,as I say myths and porkies. Ask yourself if any doctor or hospital would ever refuse treatment to a sick child because of money. Socialists demand fairy tales to sustain their demand for control of the people.How else can they keep them in their delusional world. I remember the founding of the NHS and the world before it. As for the lady with the jam jar, ladies have always had jam jars for their accounting, and always will.
I also think Michael Howard will go back to the back benches, it is inevitable when the majority of the voters are state clients, socialism's true growth area.